mr smith (updated)

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Shep_Smith_We_do_not_fking_0423.html

the one exception to the rule*

* rule being, every host on fox is a lying sycophant

(update)

compare the above with remarks from the stupidest person on air @ nbc

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30353898#30353898

to paraphrase chris hayes on olbermann, whenever you debate the merits of torture, the sadists win

and from mr black

Deep Thought

The United States doesn't torture, but anyone who opposes torture is un-American.

http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/04/deep-thought_23.html

more from the booman

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2009/4/24/95047/8872

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2009/4/23/20210/9052

and because some on the right will not accept anything that wasn't championed by ronald reagan:

The United States participated actively and effectively in the negotiation of the Convention . It marks a significant step in the development during this century of international measures against torture and other inhuman treatment or punishment. Ratification of the Convention by the United States will clearly express United States opposition to torture, an abhorrent practice unfortunately still prevalent in the world today.

The core provisions of the Convention establish a regime for international cooperation in the criminal prosecution of torturers relying on so-called "universal jurisdiction." Each State Party is required either to prosecute torturers who are found in its territory or to extradite them to other countries for prosecution.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1079/is_n2137_v88/ai_6742034/

why does ronnie hate america ??

from andrew sullivan via brad's blog

some commentary from someone who would know

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/opinion/23soufan.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1240752276-eCKb9HRru9tYQ/uS4dZepQ